vg|A 2012 USBC Quarterfinal,Segment 2 of 8,I,16,30,Nickell,39,Spector,20|
rs|6SN=,6SS=,3NW=,6CE=,3CW-1,4CW-2,7NN=,7NS=,4SS-1,4SS=,3NE-1,3NE-1,3NE+1,3NE+2,2SW+2,4SW=,4SE-1,4HN-1,4SE-1,5DNx-2,1NS-1,1NS-2,3SN-1,1NE+1,2SN=,2SN+1,4HN=,4HN=,4HN=,4HS=|
pn|Meckstroth,Spector,Rodwell,Cohler,Wooldridge,Zia,Hurd,Hamman|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SJT643H3DK4CAKQ52,S9HT642DJT73CJT86,SAK8HAKQJ975DA8C7,SQ752H8DQ9652C943|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|runnerup:  hi all |pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|7H|mb|p|mb|7N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: hi Markku, Jan and all|pg||
mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|bigtrain: hi everyone|pg||
pc|dT|nt|runnerup:  a bit late but worth waiting i am sure|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Sorry - I'm not supposed to be an operator today, but I'm 2 operators and 1 computer short :). Hopefully we'll get all 8 rooms up soon|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|jbgood: and this one seems to drift one off...|pg||
nt|bigtrain: asleep at the switch|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SJT643H3DK4CAKQ52,S9HT642DJT73CJT86,SAK8HAKQJ975DA8C7,SQ752H8DQ9652C943|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfk: up now|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|bobh1: another slam|pg||
mb|3C|nt|bobh1: this one a grand|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|bobh1: they just have to stay out of @Ss|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|bobh1: hard to bid grands without blackwood|pg||
nt|algraves:  One would have to trust that south is not control bidding with zero aces|pg||
mb|7N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves:  voila|pg||
nt|bobh1: didnt bother hurd|pg||
pc|h4|mc|13|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SAKT52H76DKQT8CA7,SHKQ542DAJ973C952,SQ63HA98D654CKJ86,SJ9874HJT3D2CQT43|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfb: Discussing that needed hearts to split - Meck: "just announce that if hearts aren't 5-0 you can claim, then if they don't throw it in, lead a heart to the 9" lots of laughter|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|nt|bigtrain: 2NT = 19-20|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: cards lying well for declarer|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Sorry - I had to get the other computer going. |pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@H i'd imagine|pg||
mb|3S|nt|jbgood: seven reds and a black in the wash|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: conservative 3@S|pg||
mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|bigtrain: getting close to making this|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h4|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d5|nt|bigtrain: but to -1|pg||
nt|bigtrain: back|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he had it made after the @DQ was ducked here|pg||
pc|c3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d6|mc|9|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SAKT52H76DKQT8CA7,SHKQ542DAJ973C952,SQ63HA98D654CKJ86,SJ9874HJT3D2CQT43|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|bobh1: hamman has support but not enough values for a direct raise|pg||
nt|algraves:  forcing NT, one of the hand types is a weak heart raise|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|bobh1: hurd is 4333 but with prime high cards|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves:  3@H limit of better in principle|pg||
pc|c5|nt|bobh1: declarer's problem is more a death of tricks than the bad trump break|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
nt|bobh1: but i think he can manage|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|bobh1: kibs are taking both sides of this one|pg||
pc|c9|nt|bobh1: Zia @C play is not popular with the naysayers|pg||
nt|algraves:  easier when you can see all 4 hands and are in the back row|pg||
nt|bobh1: of course we can all see much more of the deal than Zia can|pg||
nt|algraves:  but that is the kibitizers long held right|pg||
nt|algraves:  without Oscar the Owl the game would be poorer|pg||
nt|bobh1: Zia plays MUD it appears|pg||
nt|bobh1: this may be a source of confusion for Joel|pg||
nt|bobh1: normally a player leading the 5 then playing the 9 would have the Q|pg||
nt|bobh1: this is a timed event but long pauses for thought are normal and permitted|pg||
nt|bobh1: when they start to add up, the director starts getting nasty|pg||
nt|algraves:  Well Woldridge can build a club trick with the right view but that is hardly clear|pg||
nt|bobh1: no timers...if the table is slow, then we start arguing about whose fault it was|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
nt|danilo1: once Zia led @C (and not @HK), he is doing best to continue - and force declarer's @C decision immediatelly (he may have led from Q95(2)) ... after all, East did not Dble 4@S ... ...|pg||
nt|danilo1: and he is "known" to have probably @HQ (no @H lead) and 5 trumps|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d5|nt|algraves:  We can take a long time here though|pg||
pc|h3|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SA9643HQ82D8CJT92,S872HJ4DAQ754CA85,SKQTHT63DJT63C763,SJ5HAK975DK92CKQ4|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfb: As he claimed, Meck said "we spent enough time on that hand"|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jbgood: but down it went|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: I don't really know that Cohler led the club K - but it seemed to be on the bottom of his pile of played cards :)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|runnerup:  7 tricks and 5 top losers -so 2nt had some sort of play but didn't make |pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: well deserved may i say|pg||
nt|runnerup:  yes -cards layd well and @c blocked -too high ofcause but sometimes you have to open that high|pg||
nt|runnerup:  ns makes 9 and ew only 8 in they main suits -but lets see -3 @h -1 is ok -like other table|pg||
nt|jbgood: I guess our operator par excellence is busy trying to get other operators going - doubt anyone at this table has a reason to still be in the tank|pg||
nt|athene: no i am sure it's gone pass 3@H pass pass pass already|pg||
nt|athene: rodwell has a sort of decision on lead, but small spade looks normal|pg||
nt|runnerup:  in both last boards ns made 1 trick more than here to get 7+6 in|pg||
nt|bigtrain: roland says their operator says it was scored as making|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|jbgood: wow|pg||
nt|runnerup:  more moision 3 @s -Meckstroths idea -can he make it |pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|nt|bigtrain: meckwell respect 2nd seat weak 2|pg||
nt|henryb:  that is Moysian|pg||
nt|jbgood: a lead director against 4 @h? or really serious? or just a shot?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: thus they NEVER open with a 5-card suit in second seat|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Cohler accidentally dropped both the spade 10 and the spade 8 onto the table. The director tells him that he can now play either of them and the other card is a penalty card - if ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: it's an honor, it's a major penalty card, if it's not, it's a minor penalty card.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Cohler chooses to play the spade 10 and so the spade 8 is now a minor penalty card and if Cohler is playing a spade he must play the 8 in preference to any other spot card|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: 3@S a lead director, prepared to play 4minor, i guess|pg||
nt|runnerup:  ok -just our national name -easier to pronaus here|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Cohler: "Is that what they call restricted choice?"|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|sT|mc|8|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SA9643HQ82D8CJT92,S872HJ4DAQ754CA85,SKQTHT63DJT63C763,SJ5HAK975DK92CKQ4|sv|n|nt|bobh1: apparently he made it|pg||
nt|bobh1: not sure exactly how :)|pg||
nt|bobh1: maybe he just claimed and they conceeded|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|algraves:  I suspect we did not quite see the play correctly|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d2|nt|bobh1: here's an auction and a defense we can all understand|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d4|mc|8|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SQT952HA97DA75CJ7,SA7HQ6DKQ4CA98654,S863HT542DJTCQT32,SKJ4HKJ83D98632CK|sv|e|nt|athene: that south hand looks like a 14 count to me, three aces and all those tens|pg||
nt|athene: will he think it is worth upgrading?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the infamous nebulous diamond 1@D = 2+ 10-15|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "I needed a spade lead" Rodwell: "they make 3@h" Meck: "not if you lead a spade ... didn't have to make the bid ... I wanted to beat 4@h, that's for sure"|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup:  ew can compete on 3 level here|pg||
nt|athene: both red tens worth a huge amount in those suits|pg||
nt|athene: @DAJ106 worth about half a trick more than @DAJ62|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|bigtrain: 14-16 1NT|pg||
nt|jbgood: ideal hand for stayman - you just pass prds rebid|pg||
nt|athene: i am not even sure that hand is a minimum 14-16 notrump|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: KNR values it as 14.80|pg||
nt|runnerup:  on a good day even 4 @h makes |pg||
nt|athene: now when rodwell passes 2@H, east knows he has a weak hand with short clubs, so spade length|pg||
nt|athene: so there is less reason to bid 2@S even if you were ever going to do that, with those nice hearts|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes - not so bad with all honors working - but the layout is not friendly|pg||
nt|bigtrain: upgrades reflect a true value of the hand|pg||
mb|3N|nt|runnerup:  even 10 @h is |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: the 4321 structure doesn't count 10s, or combination of honors or location of honors|pg||
nt|runnerup:  important in good day when you are in 4 @h|pg||
nt|bigtrain: thus hands with the same point count can be worth different strengths|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|bigtrain: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?hand=ax+atxx+ajtx+t9x|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d3|nt|athene: disciplined from spector there|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Rodwell: "who knows"|pg||
nt|bigtrain: that is the site for the KNR tool (Kaplan aNd Rebens Hand Evaluator)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|nt|athene: this is one of those hands where, if you just count tricks for EW, you might not find five, but declarer will have a lot of trouble coming to nine|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|athene: with the bad trump break|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i apologize for any misspellings that are the result of poor typing skills|pg||
nt|athene: basically if declarer tries to draw trumps the black suits are wide open and if he doesn't, east will get two diamond ruffs|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|athene: hmmm ok that might have cost a vital tempo for the defence though|pg||
nt|bigtrain: looks like 9 tricks from here by setting up the sidesuit|pg||
nt|runnerup:  and partner is there also -so sometimes he bid 3 @c with shortness in @s |pg||
nt|bigtrain: as is frequently correct, set up the side suit asap|pg||
nt|athene: now meckstroth is pretty much certain that trumps are 4-1, after that @h9 appeared|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sA|nt|bigtrain: splitting the honors allows the defense to pull an extra round of trump...  has nothing to do with the number of trump winners|pg||
nt|athene: declarer in control now; doesn't mind losing @DK and two trumps|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the defense will always have 2 trump winners|pg||
nt|athene: yes but splitting you might get *three* trump winners|pg||
nt|athene: if declarer wins the ace and then leaves trumps entirely and you get two ruffs|pg||
nt|bigtrain: no...  it's more important to exchange 2 for 1|pg||
nt|runnerup:  so is this a competition @h 6 against @h 5 -to make|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Cohler: "sorry" Meck: "I don't think it matters here" Cohler: "I don't either" Meck: "looks like 140 to me, but I'm not 100% sure"|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|d6|nt|athene: he really ducked that? no, surely not|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he didn't duck that|pg||
nt|athene: no|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|c7|mc|10|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SQT952HA97DA75CJ7,SA7HQ6DKQ4CA98654,S863HT542DJTCQT32,SKJ4HKJ83D98632CK|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|bobh1: Wooldridge is light but that is the modern style especially with a decent major|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: a @s lead gives the 9th trick|pg||
nt|bobh1: seems hard to resist|pg||
nt|bobh1: actually E can set up @Ds|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
nt|bobh1: the 4@S contract went down in the other room so the match tightens up|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
nt|algraves:  on board 20 he had a winning position as the defense went and of course brought it home|pg||
nt|bobh1: hamman figured out the @D layout|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s5|pc|c4|pc|s3|pg||
nt|bobh1: and will make easily|pg||
nt|bobh1: interesting lead by Joel if irrelevant on this deal|pg||
nt|bobh1: when they each bid notrump after your opening bid, time to look elsewhere for your lead|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1S985HA73DAQ962CJ7,SQJ763HKQ2DKJCK83,SA2HT865D753CT942,SKT4HJ94DT84CAQ65|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfb: East ruffed|pg||
nt|athene: sure, we meant, he didn't duck the @HK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "I thought hearts were going to be 4-1, but I thought Warren would have the 4"|pg||
mb|1D|an|2+ 10-15|nt|bigtrain: i bet 1NT by south vs pass|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@d = 2+ 10-15|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: No, when the heart K was played they all started discussing the number of tricks so he could claim|pg||
nt|runnerup:  south has solved this differently -other table passed in this situation|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 4333|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: must say I prefer 1 NT|pg||
pc|cT|nt|athene: 2@H possible from east in the passout seat i guess|pg||
nt|bigtrain: thats why they are called percentages|pg||
nt|bigtrain: no guarantees|pg||
nt|bigtrain: voice is discussing raise vs cuebid|pg||
nt|bigtrain: personally i think the E hand is right on the cusp|pg||
nt|bigtrain: a case can be made for either the raise or cuebid|pg||
mc|10|nt|bigtrain: pass seems like a strange decision|pg||
pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1S985HA73DAQ962CJ7,SQJ763HKQ2DKJCK83,SA2HT865D753CT942,SKT4HJ94DT84CAQ65|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|algraves:  just to finish for board 20 , I suspect that declarer also took the 4th club and then led a diamond to his QT. The defense had no answer to that line|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2S7HK763DQJTCJ9653,SQJT9HQ5DA974CAT8,SA82HAJ982D832CQ4,SK6543HT4DK65CK72|sv|o|nt|athene: yes|pg||
nt|runnerup:  earlyer in defence|pg||
nt|athene: surprising how often it costs to signal with nines|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Didin't matter - if he'd still had 109 of clubs, Meck would play low diamond to endplay East (he had it out then decided "let's do it this way"|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|3D|mb|3S|nt|runnerup:  he didn't signal -he put it because table had 8|pg||
nt|jbgood: y - could never be right - and of course E might have exited with the di king|pg||
nt|athene: i was wondering if it was a signal or just splitting but i thought it was a signal|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|athene: west will be thinking about slam now|pg||
nt|athene: just 4@D shows his hand i suppose|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@H shows 4+@S|pg||
nt|runnerup:  4 @h /west is ok -by east -not so ok|pg||
nt|athene: yes, the 3rd hand psyche has jockeyed them into wrongsiding it|pg||
nt|jbgood: stand corrected: then W would be thrown in with a club to give away the diamond|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: if opposite an unpassed hand South's pass would deny 3@S...  but having opened a tad light :) he chooses not to show the fit|pg||
nt|athene: spade lead gets the defence off to a good start|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@D = 4+@H 7-9 dummy points|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Sorry, I was trying to get the Jacobs closed room online, but I failed. If anyone here has a Verizon mifi, I'd love to borrow it and see if that will get on the internet (hotel and ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Sprint not working well)|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|athene: yes i think if south made a support double of 2@H that would show an actual opening bid :)|pg||
nt|athene: still declarer should prevail, even after spade, diamond back, and another spade|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Cohler asks Rodwell if he could have 4 @hs and he says only with 5 @s and 4@hs (at least I think that was the question - I'm sure that was the answer)|pg||
nt|jbgood: but may go wrong...|pg||
nt|runnerup:  @s lead and you are in trouble and it comes ?-perhaps 60 votes for that|pg||
nt|athene: let's say spade to Q or 10, north wins, diamond back to ace, another spade.  declarer rises ace, then plays three rounds of clubs|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|athene: that looks a decent line to me; even if south could ruff the third club low, you would still have the chance of picking up the trumps|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|athene: declarer's main decision, i think, is whether to cash the @HA before playing clubs|pg||
nt|athene: but i think that loses more than it gains|pg||
nt|jbgood: I wonder what a double of 1 @h would be? if natural - then W would be declarer...|pg||
nt|runnerup:  other table lead was singleton  @H -now needs to play well|pg||
nt|athene: east wondering if south has @SJ87 now i suppose|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Cohler asks Rodwell about whether they play support DBL here and if so whether it promises a real opening bid. I'm not sure how it was phrased, but what Rodwell said was: "no they ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: don't show a minimum opening bid"|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|athene: now if rodwell ruffs low you overruff and throw the @S10 on the @DK, so all is well|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Don't put any faith in the spot cards I play for Meckstroth - he's very good about most things (for instance, he was the one who gave me the scores for the boards I had missed, ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: without my asking) but he tends to put his hand on top of the cards when he plays them, so I can't see them :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: dbl of 1 @h would be to of 1 @s - so ... still not sure he had to bid 2 @h just to show 5 - but app they think otherwise... (it would surely be good to make prd declarer though)|pg||
nt|athene: well, from east's point of view, it might be better for him to declar, to protect the @DK|pg||
nt|athene: *to declare|pg||
nt|athene: i think 2@H was aok|pg||
nt|athene: ok|pg||
nt|athene: it just didn't work out so well|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|nt|runnerup:  wd -claiming now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: much depends on partnership agreement...  for instance i play 2@H as comp and 1@S as invitational in @H|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2S7HK763DQJTCJ9653,SQJT9HQ5DA974CAT8,SA82HAJ982D832CQ4,SK6543HT4DK65CK72|sv|o|nt|bobh1: a nothing hand|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|bobh1: this one more interesting|pg||
nt|bobh1: i think 4@S is cold|pg||
mb|4H|nt|bobh1: the defense cannot profitably attack @Cs|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|bobh1: 3@S cold|pg||
pc|dT|nt|bobh1: is what i meant to say|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|s9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
nt|bobh1: almost the par result|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3S2H986DK654CQJ863,SK853HJT74D7CK542,SJ97HKQ5DJT983CA9,SAQT64HA32DAQ2CT7|sv|e|nt|bigtrain: X would be a hand i'm interested in competing with but no clear bid|pg||
nt|jbgood: sure - it all comes down to agreements...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "we have about 33 minutes for 4 boards" Rodwell: "sorry, could have played faster but we had a chance to beat it" Meck: "well, let's scoot along here"|pg||
mb|1D!|an|2+ 10-15|nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+ 10-15|pg||
mb|1S|mb|3C!|an|both minos, < invitational|nt|bigtrain: 3@C = minors less than invite|pg||
mb|3S|nt|bigtrain: 54+ minors either way|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|runnerup:  here you seems to have 4 losers -but 4 @h has been made |pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@S would be natural|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: don't need 1@S fo natural|pg||
nt|athene: the defence have to play a spade through the ace before declarer can get pitches on diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: but with @HAK to knock out as well as a diamond, they have loads of time to do that|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|athene: in the other room south led a spade conceding the contract immediately|pg||
nt|jbgood: a spade lead from S ath the other table made it easy for declarer who was East|pg||
nt|runnerup:  seemed to be @s lead |pg||
nt|athene: to be fair he did have a nasty lead problem|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Spector asks about leads and carding - leads are 4th and upside down carding including upside down Smith|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: I guess the good news today is that every time I go away to try to deal with the internet for someone else, when I come back nothing has happened :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: if he plays the 7 he'll actually make this  think|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|bigtrain: looks like the defense will prevail here|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s9|nt|jbgood: will struggle to find the 9th |pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cT|nt|athene: interesting @S9 there|pg||
nt|jbgood: too difficult it seems|pg||
nt|athene: was that a deliberate falsecard trying to persuade declarer that spades are 5-3?|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|c6|pc|s5|nt|runnerup:  and east 'asked ' about majors -3 @d -and jump to 4 @h -so must have shown @h|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c3|nt|jbgood: so the first 2 digit swing to Nickell|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|nt|Vugraphzfb: sorry - Spector said heart in such a way that it sounded like "trump" to me and I thought I'd missed something and they were in hearts - but they're not|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|runnerup:  but should you bid 4 @h /east -maybe|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3S2H986DK654CQJ863,SK853HJT74D7CK542,SJ97HKQ5DJT983CA9,SAQT64HA32DAQ2CT7|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|4S|nt|bobh1: another light opener, this time without a 5-card major|pg||
mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
nt|bobh1: Zia was a bit light for 4@S, but it worked because in induced N to save|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|bobh1: looks like 4@S depended on an inspired @C play|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|nt|bobh1: 10 imps to nickell on the prev board when Kohler didn't cue bid and they stopped at the 2-level|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
nt|algraves:  he knows that Zia has a singleton for his bidding|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg||
pc|cJ|mc|9|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SA76HQ54DAQ9CT653,SJT32HAJDJT72CKQJ,S94HT932DK65CA842,SKQ85HK876D843C97|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfb: Rodwell: "maybe we'll get an easy one"|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+ 10-15|nt|bigtrain: neb diamond again :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 14-16|pg||
mb|1H|nt|bigtrain: (over one billion served)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|11-13|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sT|nt|bigtrain: needs to duck 1 @c|pg||
pc|d5|nt|runnerup:   and ew makes 9 in @S dd -in @C easyer|pg||
pc|sK|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|athene: east might have to do something cute here to avoid getting endplayed|pg||
pc|d4|mc|6|nt|athene: like throwing a queen away?|pg||
nt|jbgood: nice contract - nice lead - nice @d suit...|pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SA76HQ54DAQ9CT653,SJT32HAJDJT72CKQJ,S94HT932DK65CA842,SKQ85HK876D843C97|sv|b|nt|Walddk2:  http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2012/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: Zia's pushy 4@S call might backfire as if they struggle into 4@S NS might not save and 4@S might make|pg||
pc|s2|nt|bobh1: probably going down|pg||
nt|bobh1: EW can make a could of @Ss|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|bobh1: on the previous board, they tell me cohler is in 4@S on a @H lead|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|sK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h6|nt|bobh1: where zia bid 4@S, specter settled for 3 and they didn't save|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|bobh1: Cohler went down in 4@S, so more imps to nickell|pg||
nt|bobh1: so Zia's tactic was a success|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|d3|mc|5|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SQT632HAT64DJ9C65,S9HQ853DKT643CQ84,SKJ85HKJDQ872CJT9,SA74H972DA5CAK732|sv|o|mb|p|nt|athene: it would be much easier if west could discard a jack, to show a solid sequence, but he can't really without the nine|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+ 10-15|nt|bigtrain: neb (again)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2C!|an|majors |nt|bigtrain: 2@C = major takeout\|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck actually wrote more than just "majors" but I can't see the rest - Walter?|pg||
mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|runnerup:  double partial swing now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: looks like a partscore swing here|pg||
nt|athene: 3@H from east in the other room not an obvious bid, but it worked out ok|pg||
mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|Vugraphzfb: Rodwell asks about the EW auction and Cohler told him something that I couldn't quite hear|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|mc|8|pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SQT632HAT64DJ9C65,S9HQ853DKT643CQ84,SKJ85HKJDQ872CJT9,SA74H972DA5CAK732|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: 15 board segments...6 of them in the match|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1N|nt|bobh1: a toy to show majors|pg||
mb|p|nt|bobh1: i would play 2@C here to show majors|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
nt|bobh1: i prefer not to defend 1N if at all possible|pg||
nt|bobh1: 8 segments|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SAT853H932DA64C52,SK964HAT85DQT5C98,SQ72HKQ74DK2CAT63,SJHJ6DJ9873CKQJ74|sv|n|nt|athene: he could have ruffed the spade and exited a heart|pg||
nt|athene: forcing west to lead a diamond|pg||
nt|athene: then you can put in the 10|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 14-16|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|athene: but i guess he was pretty sure west had the @DK anyway|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2NT @H invite|pg||
nt|jbgood: at the other table E bid 3 @h... but W had seven - anyway, it was wrong to sell out|pg||
nt|bigtrain: meckwell use 2@s as a @D force|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2NT shows 3+fit|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@D is mixed|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: mixed raise|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c8|nt|bigtrain: they play 2@D as NF|pg||
nt|bigtrain: thus need 2@S to GF|pg||
nt|bigtrain: with @D|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 4_fit 7-|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 4+fit 7-9|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@C is their forcing raise|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C is a one round force|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|nt|runnerup:  this takes more time than ecpected -normally in table this takes 20 seconds|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|Vugraphzfb: I expected this match to be fast :) Deliberately chose to be the operator here so I'd finish a little early|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|bigtrain: looks like 8 tricks only here...  needed to cash the @CA to make 9|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|bigtrain: left W with an exit card|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SAT853H932DA64C52,SK964HAT85DQT5C98,SQ72HKQ74DK2CAT63,SJHJ6DJ9873CKQJ74|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bobh1: 120 boards|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|bobh1: i imagine their range is 14-16|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|bobh1: that seems to be the popular range among these young tigers|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d6|nt|bobh1: if it was 15-17, S would invite|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s3|nt|bobh1: and N wouldn't open 1N altho they often promote and demote out of range hands|pg||
nt|agumperz:  David Stevenson Blog: http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/def_1nt01.htm|pg||
nt|bobh1: this one doesn't look promotable|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3S974HKQJ9743D63C7,SQJ6H6DJT8542C863,SAK53HA5DKQCKJT94,ST82HT82DA97CAQ52|sv|b|mb|2N|an|19-20|nt|bigtrain: 2NT = 19-20|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D!|an|transfer|nt|daman:  http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 4@D = slam try so he must start with 3@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Rodwell to Cohler "not a slam try"|pg||
pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "maybe I should have made a slam try"|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hA|nt|jbgood: looks like a fine contract|pg||
nt|athene: useful @h9|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes - indeed|pg||
nt|runnerup:  this is very solid -because nice @d Q in easts hand|pg||
nt|athene: no danger of losing @DK then four hearts|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|hT|pg||
nt|athene: 6@C is a pretty good spot|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3S974HKQJ9743D63C7,SQJ6H6DJT8542C863,SAK53HA5DKQCKJT94,ST82HT82DA97CAQ52|sv|b|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|bobh1: 3 more imps to the leaders when 1N went down only 1 in the other room|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|bobh1: Joel might have sniffed at slam|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d5|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SK2HQJ95D72CT9764,SQT8H7DKQJT9CKJ83,SA63HAK642D54CAQ2,SJ9754HT83DA863C5|sv|o|nt|runnerup:  in good day 6 @c -but not very solid|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Last board here - I'll spend the break trying to figure out where we have stable internet connections and we'll show 2 or 3 matches next segment, depending on what I find out|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 6+@C 10-15|pg||
nt|athene: yes, maybe "pretty good" is overstating it a bit :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: i can't see NS stopping out of 6@H here|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT = weak @C raise or non-fitting 2-suiter GF|pg||
nt|athene: or 6@C of course|pg||
nt|runnerup:  7 @c yu mean|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@C = waiting|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@D = 55+ majors|pg||
mb|1D|nt|athene: NS in the other room play strong club too don't they|pg||
nt|athene: looks normal to open that hand 2@C if so|pg||
nt|jbgood: EW do have a nice @d save though|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D is asking|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|jbgood: but then they have to enter the bidding :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he now won't be able to check on a fit in both majors|pg||
nt|athene: west could have bid 3@D over 2@C surely|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT = 4@H|pg||
nt|athene: then east might find a raise :)|pg||
nt|runnerup:   why west passes?-i think 3 @d is ok -just my bid|pg||
mb|3D!|an|!hs|nt|athene: rodwell has to be wondering now what happened to the diamond suit|pg||
nt|bigtrain: standard 2@C is 6+ or 5@C with 4-card major|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@D = mixed raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 4+@H 7=9|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 7-9|pg||
mb|4H|nt|athene: he might think his partner has to have @DAK or something, given the opponents' silence at favourable|pg||
nt|runnerup:  and like you see 7 @d is cheap -500|pg||
nt|jbgood: 7 @d a good save against 4@h:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: of course the more diamonds south has the better, from north's point of view|pg||
nt|athene: because then there is no spade loser|pg||
nt|athene: playing in either hearts or clubs|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: time for Mr Exclusion maybe|pg||
nt|athene: if they play that|pg||
nt|runnerup:  but 7 @d can come from heaven  |pg||
nt|bigtrain: south is sub minimum|pg||
nt|bigtrain: thus the 4@H raise vs a cuebid|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S would be keycard here, right? does that mean 4NT is exclusion for spades, and 5minor is natural exclusion|pg||
nt|athene: or do they use steps?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: techinaically speaking S has denied a @S control and 2/3+@C and the worse hand posssible|pg||
nt|bigtrain: promises 6+@C in meckwell|pg||
mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|bigtrain: only STANDARD precision says 5C 4M|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Is the good news that in 6 the play will be quick?|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h5|pc|dK|pc|hA|nt|runnerup:  22 -actually|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|bigtrain: looks like making 6 to me|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|jbgood: bye for now - great operator job as always Jan :) |pg||
pc|cQ|nt|bigtrain: 7 now|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|mc|10|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SK2HQJ95D72CT9764,SQT8H7DKQJT9CKJ83,SA63HAK642D54CAQ2,SJ9754HT83DA863C5|sv|o|nt|bobh1: by starting with jacoby rather than texas|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|4H|nt|bobh1: last board of the segment...thx all |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|bobh1: i'm expecting a few more imps for nickell on 27|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d9|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|bobh1: 2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg||
nt|bobh1: S did show both majors and got pushed to 3@S-1|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|bobh1: still better than -120|pg||
mc|10|nt|bobh1: ok c u later all|pg||
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